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  • Profile picture of Richard Richard said 1 year, 9 months ago ago:

    Working alongside a physician assistant is a good way to acquire experience, but what would be a good alternative to working alongside a PA? Does volunteering at a hospital cut it depending on the amount of time invested?

  • Profile picture of davidpayne PA-E davidpayne PA-E said 1 year, 9 months ago ago:

    Richard, it all depends on the program. What most programs are interested in is direct, patient contact experience. Volunteering can mean a lot of things, from a person who stays in the back filing charts to someone much more involved with patients, participating in aspects of care. When I evaluate candidates for PA School, I’m looking for two things relative to experience:

    1. I want to know that the candidate is comfortable being around and touching patients. It would be a major mistake to dive head first into becoming a Physician Assistant, only to find out during your clinical year that you are very uncomfortable working closely with patients.
    2. I want to know that the candidate knows how PAs work within the system. They need to have enough experience to really understand the role PAs play in the health care setting, including the psychosocial dynamics involved with patients, other practitioners, nursing staff etc.

    Finally, I’ll mention this. Remember that landing a seat in PA school is highly competitive. Therefore, the higher quality of patient contact experience you can obtain, and the more experience you have, the greater the chance you’ll be able to get into a program. Candidates who are seriously interested in becoming a PA, who do not have a lot of patient contact experience, should strongly consider becoming a certified nursing assistant (CNA) or emergency medical technician (EMT) so they can obtain this experience.

    I hope this helps… good luck!

  • Profile picture of vivian vivian said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    i have worked as a pharmacy technician for 7 years and i am currently volunteering.. and i shadowed a pa .. is there anything else i should do?

  • Profile picture of davidpayne PA-E davidpayne PA-E said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    Depends on what kind of experience you’re getting with volunteering… are you getting a chance to get hands-on experience with patients? Some programs will not value being a Pharmacy technician as much as other positions because it is not considered a “hands-on” position, even though you get to interact with patients.

  • Profile picture of Unique Unique said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    i need to start volunteering ” in a jiffy” but it so hard to find the time. I am planning on doing research will that help?

  • Profile picture of Unique Unique said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    I volunteer at a hospital, but it is very hard to find to find places that will allow you to have direct patient care . Also , when you are applying how do you specify that even though you volunteered it was direct patient care?

  • Profile picture of Unique Unique said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    What are other alternatives besides becoming an EMT?
    I did an internship where i oversaw c-sections, pap smears, i took vitals, measured fetal heart rate. Is that good enough?

  • Profile picture of davidpayne PA-E davidpayne PA-E said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    There’s becoming a CNA, medical assisting, EMT, emergency room tech, and phlebotomy. Longer routes would include nursing, surgical tech, radiologic tech, and athletic training. When applying, there will be a section where you describe what you did with the particular health care experience that you list. So you’d basically say something along the lines of “with this position I had the opportunity to directly engage with patients. I was able to take vitals, clean wounds, etc., etc.”

    By the way, I noticed how you included the words “in a jiffy!” Good job. The only thing left now is to update your avatar with an image of yourself and you’ll qualify to win that free kindle :)

  • Profile picture of Unique Unique said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    Thank You So Much. Does research help? Because i have done some with preventive medicine in children?

  • Profile picture of vivian vivian said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    as a volunteer i am in charge of making the patient feel comfortable. for example pushing their wheelchair, getting them a warm blanket, placing the admission bracelet on their wrist, having them sign in. I asked university of florida and they said -We count Pharmacy Tech hours as ½ related patient care experience and ½ direct patient care experience. In other words if you have earned 3000 hours of Pharmacy Tech experience we will credit you with 1500 hours related and 1500 direct patient care. I have about 12000 hrs of pharmacy tech exp.. I am just worried I will not be as competitive as others =/

  • Profile picture of davidpayne PA-E davidpayne PA-E said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    Vivian, you have to remember that it’s about the total application package, not just one component. I think your background and experience clearly addresses the two points I mentioned at the beginning of this post. As long as the remainder of your application is strong, you’ll be a very competitive candidate.

    Unique, research does help, especially if it was human subject research where you were able to interact with patients :)

  • Profile picture of Kwaniie Chan Kwaniie Chan said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    Would volunteering at Lenox Hill Hospital count as experience? They have direct patient care volunteer opportunities for people who are majoring in PA (http://www.lenoxhillhospital.org/how.aspx?id=88). I’m submitting my application next week after I get my health forms filled out.

  • Profile picture of katierose777 P-PA katierose777 P-PA said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    I know that the accepted hours for direct patient care varies a lot by school, though, in general all schools accept hours for paid work in a certified position working with patients. I became a certified nurse aide this past summer, and when I was not able to find a full time CNA position in a jiffy, as I had hoped, I took a care giver position. I work at an assisted living facility and my title is neighborhood coordinator. Although the title is not CNA, I am actually do all the same things as a CNA, (i.e. toileting, bathing, feeding, vitals, etc.). Do you know how important it is that the hours are done in a position that requires certification? Or, is having the certification and doing equivalent work as a certified person close enough?
    Thanks for your help!

  • Profile picture of davidpayne PA-E davidpayne PA-E said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    Kwaniie, every program is different in how they view experience. The fact that you would have a chance to work directly with patients in the volunteer experience you mentioned is definitely a plus. However, it will not be seen as strong as a certified position or even a paid non-certified position with more responsibility. That doesn’t mean you can’t land a seat however :)

    Katierose777, even though you are not working as a CNA you have gone through the training of becoming a CNA, which accounts for something in and of itself. Having a paid position, although not necessarily requiring certification, will be valued patient care experience more than working in the capacity as a volunteer, as I mentioned above.

  • Profile picture of Kwaniie Chan Kwaniie Chan said 1 year, 8 months ago ago:

    True. Well, according to the “Find The Right PA School” link for CCNY Med School (NYC Downstate), 0 hours are required for admissions, but do you know if my chances will increase if I apply WITH the volunteer experience at Lenox Hill? Do you know where to get paid experiences in NYC in a jiffy?

    My transcript at Baruch College is not at its best right now. All the classes I took are not science related. I am majoring in Graphic Communications. What should I do to redeem myself?

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